[ He's not sure if he could actually get the words out in person. He also has a feeling he doesn't want to see the look on Sai's face if what he's read is true. ]
soooo yknow when i came to see you in hospital after that swear in where people got hurt and ya told me there was some kinda gas or somethin??? what happened there? heh i kinda left too suddenly to find out for myself yknow!
[...Sai reads and rereads the text uncertainly. He has a suspicion what this might be about. Naruto hadn't asked him about that when he had come back, and while his teammate could have a short attention span, he also tended to be laser focused on anything that involved his friends.
He takes a moment to skim through the network, and--ah, there it is. He supposes he should have expected something like this, after all. If there were anyone who could extend a hand to that man, it was Uzumaki Naruto. But it still makes things difficult. Nothing at this point would convince his teammate that Crane was not his friend.]
you are really asking me about jonathan crane, arent you?
it is true, naruto it was him he admits to it himself, under the name scarecrow
[ Naruto wonders, briefly, if Sai cheated somehow and is actually a wizard who can see through all of Naruto's dodging and clue in on what he really wants to know without even asking. Never mind that the trail of his foolish trusting leads straight back to the network, to the string of posts involving him and Crane.
It takes him a long time to respond, but finally a reply is sent. ]
yeah i know theres a lot of people who don't like him much now isnt there? ... i still wanna know what happened. what did he do to you?
would you have liked him much if he had done such a thing in konoha?
[Putting aside the fact that he'd be literally six feet under by now if this were Konoha. Empathy is still a fledgling experience in Sai, something that doesn't come naturally, but he compensates to some degree with his perceptiveness, his sharp and analytical mind. Sai hasn't forgotten after all, how angry Naruto had been at the mere (false) suggestion that he intended to work with Orochimaru to destroy Konoha so Danzou could rebuild it in his own image.]
he did not do anything in particular to me the gas was released into the crowd, i was affected, kakashi-san restrained me so that i could be brought in for treatment, and i regained lucidity a few days later
[ He won't ever forget how livid he'd been with Nagato, how badly he wanted to kick the crap out of him and how much he still hated him even now, but... he still wanted to listen, is still glad he took the chance to listen.. If he hadn't he would never have understood, he wouldn't have sympathised and he wouldn't have brought Nagato any peace. He has to extend that same courtesy to Crane, even if he knows it won't sit well with most.
He'd come to Sai for the cold, hard facts; he didn't want the recollection to be a difficult one for the teller, or for them to go easy on him because of his nature. He trusted Sai to do neither of those things, and rightly so.
[In a sense, Sai was still holding back, having not mentioned the precise nature of how he was affected by the gas--or namely, the hallucinations of Naruto's death. But those aren't details that he's thought particularly deeply about since the incident, nor does he find them relevant to the conversation at hand.]
crane has some manner of fixation on the concept of fear
from what i understand, he viewed the entire thing as part of his research, although what exactly he sought to accomplish i could not say if i had to guess, it would be that he wished to see how everyone would react to his creation
noone hurt him here or made him feel like an outsider or did any of the usual stuff that sets people off everyone here is pretty welcomin and nice but every time he talks about it he just turns it around on me
i wanna know why whyd he have to do it and hurt people he didnt even know
i still do not understand people very well but i think it is probably because he could he had the power to do so and wished to demonstrate, or perhaps test it it would not be unheard of uchiha itachi decimated his clan for that reason, after all
that aint it at all thats never it theres always something
it wasnt like that with itachi either he did it to keep sasuke and the village safe from another war itachi wiped out his clan before they could do anything dumb so the village would stay strong and so that his brother would have something to get stronger for
everyones got a reason and i bet crane has one too
itachi was ordered to assassinate his clan? to become a missing-nin?
[Sai lost his birth family to war, doesn't even remember them anymore. His "brother" in Root was the closest he's had since, and those few times that he does think back on whether he would have killed him if he hadn't died of illness first, he finds he's not sure. He's not yet come to the realization that he wouldn't kill Naruto either, even for the village, so despite his limited understanding of bonds, he can only see Itachi's actions as one of supreme loyalty to Konoha.
It's a revelation Sai never would have expected; he's seen Itachi all this time to be an enemy, a threat as a member of Akatsuki. A traitor like Sasuke was. But it would seem he is the exact opposite of that.]
i do not know what cranes motivation was if it was not about power i am not as confident as you that he had one but if he did if anyone could ascertain it it would be you
yeah his family were going to make a big fuss with the elders and the hokage itachi had to choose them or the safety of the village and sasuke he chose sasuke
[ He's still pretty sure that he doesn't want to think about Itachi's morals too hard. He's loyal to his village too, but he's not sure he could kill his family for it's sake. War really did bring dark times.
Sai's final words make Naruto bristle - with determination or with unease - and he actually pauses to consider his response. ]
he left sasuke alive to preserve the reputation of his clan despite their intentions to betray konoha?
[You know, Sai can actually respect that, too. After all, wasn't Root created for just such a purpose? To be the shadows doing what needed to be done, but which Konoha did not wish to attach its identity to?]
do not lower your guard, naruto you may yet be able to make him understand your point of view but in the meantime you are a potential test subject as well keep that in mind whenever you speak with
yeah the blame was all on itachi instead of the clan as a whole his brother willingly took on everyones hatred even sasukes hatred to make sure konoha stayed peaceful and sasuke stayed safe
[ He's gonna choose not to mention the 'sessions' he's already had with Crane. He doesn't really think Sai will approve much. ]
[ That's a long story -- or more, it's a difficult story.. One Naruto doesn't understand entirely and yet one that he feels like he's known all along. His reply is delayed. ]
[...huh. Sai would not have guessed that. He was sort of assuming it was revealed by the Council or the Hokage or even Itachi himself. To hear it was Madara, the man who the entire war is being fought against, is certainly something of a surprise. Still, would he have cause to lie about it? Sai isn't sure.]
someone betrayed him and saved everyone instead of killing them after talking to me and i guess he couldnt figure out why
so he told me about the sage of the sixth paths and about itachi and how sasuke was slipping lower into vengeance and wanted to destroy the leaf for what happened to itachi
he wouldnt tell us why he was saying all of it though maybe just to upset me
[Color Sai completely unsurprised by this revelation. Naruto just has that effect on people.]
if sasuke is part of his plan, he was probably trying to discourage you about retrieving him, yes
honestly, though, he's wasting his time
[He's not even saying that as reassurance, just fact. He doesn't know what it is about Uchiha Sasuke that's so compelling, but Naruto won't stop until he succeeds in bringing him back.]
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i was washing up
what is it?
we can talk in person too if you would prefer
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[ He's not sure if he could actually get the words out in person. He also has a feeling he doesn't want to see the look on Sai's face if what he's read is true. ]
soooo
yknow when i came to see you in hospital after that swear in where people got hurt
and ya told me there was some kinda gas or somethin???
what happened there?
heh i kinda left too suddenly to find out for myself yknow!
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He takes a moment to skim through the network, and--ah, there it is. He supposes he should have expected something like this, after all. If there were anyone who could extend a hand to that man, it was Uzumaki Naruto. But it still makes things difficult. Nothing at this point would convince his teammate that Crane was not his friend.]
you are really asking me about jonathan crane, arent you?
it is true, naruto
it was him
he admits to it himself, under the name scarecrow
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It takes him a long time to respond, but finally a reply is sent. ]
yeah i know
theres a lot of people who don't like him much now isnt there?
... i still wanna know what happened. what did he do to you?
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[Putting aside the fact that he'd be literally six feet under by now if this were Konoha. Empathy is still a fledgling experience in Sai, something that doesn't come naturally, but he compensates to some degree with his perceptiveness, his sharp and analytical mind. Sai hasn't forgotten after all, how angry Naruto had been at the mere (false) suggestion that he intended to work with Orochimaru to destroy Konoha so Danzou could rebuild it in his own image.]
he did not do anything in particular to me
the gas was released into the crowd, i was affected, kakashi-san restrained me so that i could be brought in for treatment, and i regained lucidity a few days later
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He'd come to Sai for the cold, hard facts; he didn't want the recollection to be a difficult one for the teller, or for them to go easy on him because of his nature. He trusted Sai to do neither of those things, and rightly so.
That said, he's not sure how to answer. ]
why would he do that?
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crane has some manner of fixation on the concept of fear
from what i understand, he viewed the entire thing as part of his research, although what exactly he sought to accomplish i could not say
if i had to guess, it would be that he wished to see how everyone would react to his creation
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yknow?
noone hurt him here or made him feel like an outsider or did any of the usual stuff that sets people off
everyone here is pretty welcomin and nice
but every time he talks about it he just turns it around on me
i wanna know why
whyd he have to do it and hurt people he didnt even know
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but i think it is probably because he could
he had the power to do so and wished to demonstrate, or perhaps test it
it would not be unheard of
uchiha itachi decimated his clan for that reason, after all
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thats never it
theres always something
it wasnt like that with itachi either
he did it to keep sasuke and the village safe from another war
itachi wiped out his clan before they could do anything dumb so the village would stay strong and so that his brother would have something to get stronger for
everyones got a reason
and i bet crane has one too
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[Sai lost his birth family to war, doesn't even remember them anymore. His "brother" in Root was the closest he's had since, and those few times that he does think back on whether he would have killed him if he hadn't died of illness first, he finds he's not sure. He's not yet come to the realization that he wouldn't kill Naruto either, even for the village, so despite his limited understanding of bonds, he can only see Itachi's actions as one of supreme loyalty to Konoha.
It's a revelation Sai never would have expected; he's seen Itachi all this time to be an enemy, a threat as a member of Akatsuki. A traitor like Sasuke was. But it would seem he is the exact opposite of that.]
i do not know what cranes motivation was if it was not about power
i am not as confident as you that he had one
but if he did
if anyone could ascertain it
it would be you
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his family were going to make a big fuss with the elders and the hokage
itachi had to choose them or the safety of the village and sasuke
he chose sasuke
[ He's still pretty sure that he doesn't want to think about Itachi's morals too hard. He's loyal to his village too, but he's not sure he could kill his family for it's sake. War really did bring dark times.
Sai's final words make Naruto bristle - with determination or with unease - and he actually pauses to consider his response. ]
im not gonna let him hurt anyone else
but hes got monsters to control too
i can feel it
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[You know, Sai can actually respect that, too. After all, wasn't Root created for just such a purpose? To be the shadows doing what needed to be done, but which Konoha did not wish to attach its identity to?]
do not lower your guard, naruto
you may yet be able to make him understand your point of view
but in the meantime you are a potential test subject as well
keep that in mind whenever you speak with
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the blame was all on itachi instead of the clan as a whole
his brother willingly took on everyones hatred
even sasukes hatred
to make sure konoha stayed peaceful and sasuke stayed safe
[ He's gonna choose not to mention the 'sessions' he's already had with Crane. He doesn't really think Sai will approve much. ]
i'll keep it in mind
don't worry
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i see
how did you learn this?
[That's mostly irrelevant to Crane, of course, but he's curious okay.}
once his sentence is up
he will be free to have more of that toxin made
be especially cautious then
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uchiha madara told me.
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why?
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and i guess he couldnt figure out why
so he told me about the sage of the sixth paths and about itachi
and how sasuke was slipping lower into vengeance and wanted to destroy the leaf for what happened to itachi
he wouldnt tell us why he was saying all of it though
maybe just to upset me
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if sasuke is part of his plan, he was probably trying to discourage you about retrieving him, yes
honestly, though, he's wasting his time
[He's not even saying that as reassurance, just fact. He doesn't know what it is about Uchiha Sasuke that's so compelling, but Naruto won't stop until he succeeds in bringing him back.]
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yeah i know that
if anythin it just made me more determined to find him
im not lettin another bad guy drag him down even more
ill bring him home
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as long as you do not allow your determination to falter i am confident you will succeed, naruto
just be cautious not to allow your guard to fall in the process, either
with crane especially but also sasuke